Gaza: Prospects for the Future

Okay. So has Trump now repeated calls for Palestinians to be sent to Egypt and Jordan again?

Yeah. Well, the first the first he said when he was on a plane with talking to reporters, and he said that on the phone, he talked to the king of Jordan and to Egypt. I guess he was talking to Sisi, saying that he suggested that, that he thinks that's what should happen. He didn't say what their reply was, although we can assume what their reply was. They replied it came out officially later because this was published, this this exchange he, you know, with the reporters was was published.

And then Jordan came out with a statement and Egypt came out with a statement saying, obviously, we don't accept that. We reject that. And, you know, the thing is that this is this is it's not a new proposal. Trump didn't come up with this. I mean, this was Biden's proposal and Lincoln's proposal.

Lincoln went to to Jordan and and said that. Cece went. What's his name? Biden called Cece, as I recall, and asked him that or insisted upon that upon the directions of Netanyahu. Netanyahu told Biden to do it, and Biden did

it. Uh-huh.

And they were flatly rejected because this is, you know, this is clear position.

Right.

And so Trump knows that already. When he when he says that, he knows that already. He already knows I don't think that he's saying that with any expectation of compliance.

Right.

Even though now he has come out with with another I think at a press conference saying, well, they'll take them. They'll take them. We give Egypt a lot, he said. He said we give Egypt I love this, how America just always regards, you know, any money just like just like Jordan Peterson talking about the the money that that supposedly America has given to Saudi Arabia as if you get nothing in return.

Something magnanimous that you're doing.

But he's he he apparently, reportedly anyway, you know, with the the blocking foreign aid or or or closing off foreign aid. Foreign aid to Jordan has been canceled or suspended, but he's maintaining the aid to Egypt. Egypt and Israel are, like, the only two countries where the foreign aid hasn't been cut off, reportedly, but there's a lot of confusion about this. So the question is, if he doesn't really have any expectation of compliance with this request, which I there's no way that he can, it has to be remembered always that any public position that Trump takes, should never ever be taken literally. It's a bargaining tactic or it's a a tactic of misdirection only.

Mhmm. In this case, I think that it's a bargaining tactic. He wants something else. Right. Because the important thing the the really important thing this is the thing that makes his his suggestion different from Biden and Blinken.

It included him asking Jordan and Egypt, do you have any better ideas?

That's interesting.

Meaning, he's opening the door to what I want is for this to be resolved, and the only suggestion that anyone has that's on our side, meaning America and Israel, is the expulsion of the Palestinians. Okay. We know already that that's not acceptable to any of you. So what do you propose in terms of reconstruction of Gaza? Because Trump was framing it in that way.

He was framing it in as he said, Gaza is a demolition zone, which indeed it is, and we all know why. Although he avoided mentioning why that is the case. Gaza is a demolition zone, and it there's nothing there. There's, like, no buildings, which which breaks Trump's heart more than the than the death of the people. He hates for to buildings for to be destroyed because he's a building guy.

So the idea is, how are you going to actually even go about, practically speaking, from a sort of engineering perspective? How realistically are you gonna rebuild the Gaza Strip without moving people, without relocating people somewhere else. And I think he's telling them, you need to have a solution to this. He's telling the Arabs, he's telling Egypt and Jordan, and more importantly, the GCC. Basically, in my view, what he's saying is we need to move forward with this.

Right. How do we constructively move forward? It's pun intended. Yeah.

You know Yeah. Yeah.

Move forward with this in a constructive manner.

Yeah.

Given the reality of the input of influx of the people facing demolition demol the you know, a body of

Demolished area. Demolished territory.

Demolished territory, and then they have to be fed. They have to be you know, they have to live.

Yeah.

So right? So Yeah. All of these factors.

I mean, because the the scale of of reconstruction is

Yeah. Which then brings the point about

Mind blowing.

Having China, as you suggested in the chat.

Yeah. Well, I think personally, I think okay. First of all, I think that that that anytime Trump or anyone else, but especially, you know, America, anytime they have any communication with Jordan or Egypt, it's an indirect communication to the

GCC. Mhmm.

Because those are the sponsors of both Jordan and Egypt and the most important players economically. And also, the GCC has pledged to be involved in reconstructing Gaza, obviously. So I think that Trump is bargaining for basically saying we're at that stage now to move forward with Reconstruction and with now moving to the next phase, which is going to be what is Gaza gonna look like and who is it gonna be under, which, also includes, to a certain extent, in my view in in my view, the subtext for all of this is the transferral of dependency of Israel's dependency from America to the GCC. They're transferring Israel's dependency. And now it's time for the GCC to move on that.

Mhmm. Now it's time through Gaza. You're going to but probably what's gonna end up happening is that Gaza is going to be like, okay. Land ownership in Gaza is going to be like I said in the chat, is gonna be basically control alt deleted, in my view. Now I'm just speaking realistically, what's likely to happen.

This isn't at all what I think should or is good or what have you. This is just what's most likely. What's most likely is that land ownership in Gaza is gonna be control alt deleted, and land will be distributed according to the caprice of the Palestinian Authority with parcels of land being distributed according to whatever the PA decides. And the most valuable real estate along the beach, the beachfront property, will be distributed to The Gulf and to their foreign partners, investment firms like Affinity, which is Jared Kushner. And see, this is this is the other thing that it when there's in when there's any communication between Trump and the GCC, everyone has to understand that they are already working with each other behind the scenes, in my view.

Behind closed doors, Trump is very close to the GCC. He's very close to Saudi Arabia. He's close to UAE. And it so is his son-in-law, Kushner. His this this investment from Affinity is basically Gulf money.

It's a it's an it's a vehicle for The Gulf to to be able to deal with Israel without dealing with them directly. Because the Affinity has dealings with Israel and investments in Israel. So this is how the Gulf is buying Israel through Affinity. Mhmm. They're also gonna buy Gaza.

Right.

And they'll develop Gaza. And this is in Trump's interest. It's in Kushner's interest. It's in their foreign partners' interest. So I think that the that the that the beachfront property is gonna go to the GCC and to Affinity, and he's trying to make sure that that that his son-in-law gets a good deal.

And then the rest of the land will probably go to mostly big land developers, Emirati and foreign and so on. And maybe here and there, there will still be some private ownership. But I'm afraid that what will probably happen is that whereas prior to genocide, most Gazans had homes, had family homes, and had land, and they could build their homes, and they could build up their homes, expand their homes, and so forth. I think most of the Gazaans are gonna end up being apartment tenants and not land owners and not homeowners.

Mhmm.

Most likely, they're gonna be in apartments. And and distribution of the land will be under the caprice of the PA, which means it's gonna be basically run by the Gulf. Right. And I think that the whole area, inshallah, will be developed. But I think the pal that the Palestinians will be, you know, subordinated economically.

Uh-huh. Their lives will be better. Quality of life will be better. Obviously, they'll be safer because, you know, I think it was Saudi Arabia said something something to the effect. It was either Saudi Arabia or The UAE.

I can't remember now. Hold on. Said something about where what how are we gonna put money into reconstruction if it's just gonna all get destroyed again?

The

the the the the unsaid part of that is that the question itself implies its own answer, which is that the way that you do that is by the projects that you are constructing in Gaza are not charitable products projects, but profitable projects for you and for foreign investors.

Yeah. If it is at if your interests are at stake, you don't want

If you if your interests are at stake and Western interests, foreign interests, interests of BRICS, and unfortunately, Israeli interests.

Mhmm.

Because the Israelis will have a stake in that Yeah. Because they're partners with Affinity. Mhmm. So they will have a stake in that. But it will be it won't be completely lopsided on their side.

It will more more be lopsided on the side of the Gulf. Gaza will be gulfified, so to speak. But I think that, you know, there's a lot of there's a few different ways that it can go, and I think that one of the important things that could happen, and this is where I'll say what I think should happen, then they should bring in China. China should be brought in to do reconstruction funded by The Gulf, and that will give a lot of jobs, first of all. That will give a lot of jobs to Gazans who are engineers, are architects, who are construction workers.

Who used to do construction work in Israel.

Yeah.

Now you've now you can you can be put to work to to rebuild your own area. Mhmm. But the Chinese I don't I don't know anyone else who could do it but the Chinese.

Yeah.

Because it is tragically speaking, it is factually accurate to say that this is a huge logistical challenge.

Yeah. Logistical, I'm just say undertaking, yes. But they they have all the, you know, fabricated

Prefabricated?

Pre yeah. Prefabricated solutions, you know, construction wise.

You know? If if anyone can figure it out, the Chinese can figure out how to do it. How to rebuild in that very small area that is completely demolished while you have 2,000,000 people. But if anyone can figure it out, the Chinese can figure it out. I mean, they built a, what, 57 story high rise in nineteen days.

They built two hospitals in ten days. Mhmm. They can do it. I mean, with it if if you brought in the Chinese, they could rebuild well, I won't say they could rebuild Gaza, but they if you brought in the Chinese, then within a year, everyone in Gaza would have a roof over their head. Mhmm.

And a and a decent one. Mhmm. You know?

I mean

But like I say, they'll they will be reduced to being apartment dwellers

Yes.

Not homeowners. Yes. I don't really see a way around that. Except for once a you know, once you move towards a a final ultimate solution to the issue, which is the one state solution, and the whole territory gets integrated into one giant territory, which is which would include what is currently Gaza, the West Bank, and Israel into one country, and everyone has citizenship, then you can sort out with land ownership and real estate and so on. So anyway, I don't think Trump is serious at all when he's saying that.

I think what he is serious about is when the the addition to that statement, which is the question, what other ideas do you have?

Yeah. I I I think that that that's the reality of the ground. Yeah.

Yeah. He's he's signaling we're moving now is the time to move forward. Yeah. The genocide is over. The conflict is over.

Now we have to move to the next phase, which is the rebuilding and the restructuring and the reorganizing, basically, of the region, which includes, like I said, the transfer of dependency. Because Trump has also signaled he said that he that he's gonna take the American troops out of Syria. He said that they're gonna take American troops out of Iraq. America is leaving the Middle East. They're leaving the Middle East.

So so that that corridor that I've been talking about is being built.

Mhmm.

And now Trump is saying, this is on you. You have to figure out how to do this in a way that that satisfies, basically, the the profit private profit interests of me and my family. Mhmm. Because, like I said, he's a national. He's not worried about American companies.

He's worried about because Affinity Partners, I think it's supposed to called Affinity Partners Oh. This investment firm, it's you could not really define that as an American investment company. It's a golf investment company that has Jared Kushner in it. And and they have Jared and they're doing that so that they can have influence with Trump.

Yeah. Sure.

You know? And Kushner is the one who is pushing the Abraham Accords. So I think that that that this whole group of people who is now in power Mhmm. And who was in power before Biden Uh-huh. Like I've said many times, I think that the Abraham Accords, the whole point of that was to to start facilitating the breakup between America and Israel and give Israel a new boyfriend to, you know, to take care of them.

Because America is they've had it, and they can't do it anymore. They're they're not interested. They're withdrawing from the whole world. So they're withdrawing from the Middle East, they're withdrawing from the whole world, and we want that region to be stable, which is gonna include the integration of Israel into the region, which means, obviously, the the end of the conflict, but then also not just the end of the conflict, but the development of Gaza. Yeah.

And the the stabilization and the economic development of Gaza, which is gonna follow a lot of neoliberal Yeah. Programs, but it's gonna be under the Gulf, it's gonna be under Muslims. You know? And the same was gonna be for Lebanon, the same was gonna be for Syria. It's gonna be across the the whole Mediterranean is gonna be like this, in my opinion.

Which isn't it it's not ideal. Sure. But it's certainly better than what we've been having. Yeah. This is certainly better than what we have had.

Yeah. And certainly better than what we've had since October 2023. Mhmm. I mean, it still remains to be seen what's gonna happen with Netanyahu. Mhmm.

I can't I can't believe that anybody the gulf does not wanna work with him at

all. Sure.

I I think that, you know, just like just like back in Biden's administration Uh-huh. When MBS you know, before October 7, when MBS was when there was all this talk about normalization, and he made it very clear. I'm not gonna do this deal with Biden.

Yeah. I remember the MBS interview.

Yeah. Oh, and on Fox News. It was very clear he was not gonna make this deal as long as Biden was there. And I think that it is equally clear that no deal is gonna be made as long as Netanyahu is there. Yeah.

That one of the one of the preconditions to any of this moving forward is the removal of Netanyahu, I think, and Allah Mo'adam.

There there's no elections expected. Right?

There's there are elections coming up in a couple of months, scheduled for a couple of months. But, I mean, we all hope that it will happen sooner Yeah. That that, you know, he there'd be a no confidence vote, and he would his his cabinet would fall apart and and they have to have snap elections. I think we also have to consider the possibility, although it it it it's gross to anyone to think about it. It's it's unpleasant for anyone to think about it, but I think that we have to look at of Israel joining BRICS.

I think that's the thing that could happen.

I didn't see this. Why is this obvious?

Because BRICS is gonna become more and more involved in the Middle East. You have Egypt as part of BRICS. Saudi Arabia, basically, is a part of BRICS, although there's still questions about it. UAE is part of BRICS. Iran is part of BRICS.

So it wouldn't surprise me. And if we're seeing now the transfer of of basically, transfer of ownership or dependency to the region Uh-huh. And Israel becoming integrated into the region. Uh-huh. And we want to have a way also for China to have a mediating authority

Uh-huh.

Over Israel. I'm sure that we're gonna see more investment by China into Israel. But but if Israel joined Briggs, they're gonna they're because because part of part of part of separating Israel from America is also getting them on a different trading system. Okay. I understand.

Transfer system, financial a whole different economic paradigm that that needs to happen. Mhmm. And BRICS has a way of resolving disputes. Mhmm. China's ethos, China's philosophy, China's approach, and China's power Mhmm.

China's economic power, and their emphasis on harmony has a way of resolving disputes. It's possible that we would see I know. I know. It it it makes your skin crawl to think about it. Because of everything that BRICS stands for in our minds is anti imperialist, anti west, anti, you know, colonization and so on.

That Israel, which is a western colony, western colonial project joining in. But that is but this is what I was talking about before in terms of what normalization means. First of all, from our end, normalization means economic conquest and the liberation of the land. But in another context, you can look at normalization, meaning become normal. Yeah.

Because you are abnormal. Israel is abnormal. And in order for this to remain in any way, shape, or form, you have to become normal.

Assimilate.

You have to assimilate to the region. You have to integrate with the region. You have to have harmony with the region. The region has to be cohesive, and you can't be a disruptive factor anymore.

No. It's it's it's the perfect way to decouple from The United States.

Yeah.

And we have the new candidate now.

Yeah. I think it's possible that that that we could see that happen. I I can't give a time frame, but but I think it's possible that we could see that happen.