Pragmatism, Not Zionism, Will Win in the End

How do the how do the Republicans and the Conservatives get along with the Zionists? Because they actually hate Jews. They're fully in favor of saying that the Jews don't belong in America or in in Western countries and they need to be somewhere else. So that that's not against their belief at all. It's it's a like I said, support for Zionism is about as antisemitic as you can possibly get.

It's saying that Jews aren't welcome in our countries, and so you need to go somewhere else. So that is, you know, it's fully, compatible with anti Semitism. I would just say, with regards to the, to the so called Jewish lobby or the pro Israeli lobby, which is a collection of several different lobbying organizations, IPAC being just one of them. These are superfluous organizations. They're just money making, organizations for the people who run those organizations.

That's all they are. They can have some some degree of, influence, and they do have some degree of influence on the state level, in terms of helping to get a particular politician elected, but they have nothing to do. They believe me, they have nothing to do whatsoever with foreign policy. They have no influence whatsoever with regards to America's policy towards Israel. That's that's a complete, hallucination that people have if they imagine that the, American policy towards Israel is dictated to them by the Israeli lobby.

It's that's ridiculous. It's always been America has always pursued policies that are in its interest, and they can't be fooled about what is in their interest. They know perfectly well what is and is not in their interest. And as I've said many times, the moment that, supporting Israel is not in their interest, they'll drop it like a bad habit, and the Israeli lobby themselves will either disband or they'll take a different position just like you see now. If you look at the who who is getting lobbied and who has the most support from Jewish lobbies, Jewish Jewish and and pro Israeli PACs and so on, I bet you that Chuck Schumer is probably one of the top ones.

He himself is a Jew, he's from New York, you know he's got a lot of Jewish support and he's saying we need to get rid of Netanyahu. No one is dictating to America about their their policy towards Israel. It's a policy that has historically been in America's interest, and that's the only reason that the policy has been what it has been. And the moment that it that they regard it as not being in their interest, they'll drop them. And the and the Jews themselves will drop Israel if it's not in their interest.

They've only been supportive of it because it's been in their interest. But the moment that it's not, you see already, like, half a million Jews left Israel, since October 7. Half a million Jews didn't go on vacation, they didn't go on holiday out of Israel, they emigrated, they moved, like they they they upped stakes and left the country. So you know what what their real interests are, and everybody knows that that Zionism is just a pitch, Zionism is just a euphemism, the whole thing about this is to protect the Jews and this is about how God gave us this land and so on and so on and so on. All of this is just propaganda.

This is all just marketing. It's a colonial project, always has been. And the moment that it's not viable, everybody will drop it. Nobody nobody's gonna no one's gonna I mean, you might you might find a few completely brainwashed loony tomb settlers who will stay, and and still believe in the in the Zionist, you know, in the Zionist brainwashing. But the people who are actually making policy and making decisions, don't have the luxury of being that ideological.

We have to, consider what kind of survivors this community is. They're remarkable survivors because they have I don't know who's been persecuted for longer and more severely than the Jews. That's a reality. They have a a very, very difficult history for a long long time, and they've survived. And my argument is, that they've survived because they're practical.

At the end of the day, they will do what's practical, and they will do what as Allah said, that they don't have safety unless they have, an assurance or a guarantee of safety from someone who's more powerful than them. So they know about aligning themselves with power and being practical and pragmatic. So that's why I'm saying that that, they won't hesitate to drop Zionism. They won't hesitate to drop any ideology that will get away or get in the way of their material safety. So, and their material security and their material benefit.

That's how they've been able to survive all these millennia. I mean that they really have been persecuted not in Europe for millennia but for, on the earth for millennia, they had problems. They have no problem in in, being obsequious to power. It's very, very, integral to their survival strategy to be very practical. Like you were asking the question about how did how did the, Republicans and the Conservatives and whatnot get along with the Jews, the you could also ask the second the the other side of that, which is how did the Jews get along with them?

And I think that the the the the answer to the first question is answered by the second question. In other words, the the the conservative Christians and the the conservative Republicans and so on are able to get along with the Jews because the Jews know how to get along with them. That's why they came up with the term Judeo Christian and so on because they were acquiescing and they were being obsequious to the ones who could protect them, to the ones who could provide for them, to the ones who could guarantee their security and safety. It's pure cynical pragmatism on their part. And they're, you know, if they if they were going to be, actually highly, religiously ideological, then they can't get along.

They'd they'd be like those those Hasidic, communities in New York that are just completely sealed off from the rest of society. But way that they've been able to survive is by being highly highly pragmatic. The way they're able to get along is is almost moored down to the Jews themselves knowing how to get along with people.