Middle Nation Content Talks | Zionism: Western Hatred & Its Self-destructive Logic

Assalamu alaikum, everyone. Yeah. The video I hold people already viewed it. It's a bit older. It's called it's Zionism Trojan horse for Judaism?

Short answer, it is. Longer answer, the next two hours that we will be here, Injola. And the video is a bit shorter, but just understand that, in July, today's discussion will be based on more than one video. But I think this one, you know, gives the best picture or you know? I don't wanna say that because it's unfair to the other videos, which are also great, but somehow I feel this is, you know, like, direct and, you know, the approach of our brother Shahid when he's like, no reserves.

No reservations holding. You know?

Political Judaism or what you can call Zionism is a deviation from Judaism. None of the founders of political Judaism were religious people. In fact, they held religious Jews in contempt, and religious Jews held them in contempt originally because they're extremists. They're deviants. They're heretics to Judaism.

They corrupted the Jews from their religion, and that's a fact. Zionists are religiously ignorant people just like ISIS or Al Qaeda or any extremist violent deviant Muslim group. They take what they want from their scriptures and they leave what they want to justify violence and power and domination. That's not what Judaism is about. Netanyahu is not a religious man.

Theodore Herzog or Ben Gurion or Ariel Sharon, they weren't rabbis just like ISIS. They cynically and opportunistically cut and paste whatever they want from religious texts to manipulate and mislead and rationalize their completely secular project of Zionism. They only tolerate religious Jews in Israel because they're the only ones who have babies. And the secular project of duty of of Zionism has always been plagued by a demographics problem. You know, atheists don't procreate very much, and most Zionists are mostly atheists.

I think half of Israelis identify as secular, and more than half say that you don't even have to believe in God to be a Jew. And about a quarter of them don't believe in God. That's why religious Jews don't even regard Zionists as Jews because they're deviant, they're corrupt, and they're obsessed with power. And they're corrupt with power when they get it. They're immoral with power.

They're vicious. Again, just like ISIS because it's an extremist political ideology that uses religion and religious identity as a mask. Look. I've said time and time again, Muslims have never had a problem with Jews. Muslims and Jews lived together for centuries in peace and mutual prosperity, religious Jews that is.

In Palestine, we always lived together. Even if that meant that we had to bring Jews back into lands after the Muslims took them over because other people had exiled them. The Jews are the descendants of Ishaq. The Arabs are the descendants of Ismail. We're cousins.

And religious Jews know and they understand that the descendants of Ismail are the people who will establish justice and righteousness on the earth. That's the religiosity. Religious Jews know that. Rabbis know that. They know that religiously, they're not supposed to have a kingdom in Palestine.

They're not supposed to have a kingdom in Jerusalem, but they are supposed to live safely under the protection and the leadership of their cousins under the Muslims. That's the religious position, and that's what actual history evidences to have been true and to be true because that's the only time and the only place when Jews were safe and where they were safe, and that was under Muslim rule. Look. The Jews are ruling Palestine now. Are they safe?

Is their religion protected? No. They've lost their religion. They've corrupted their religion. They've put themselves under the Christians, under the West, under The United States, and it has ruined them.

They put themselves under the protection of the people who have only ever hated them, who've only ever been cruel towards them, and they turned them against the people who have only ever been benevolent towards them. And the people who their own religion teaches them are the people of justice and goodness. This is Zionism, political Judaism. It's not Judaism. It's not the religion.

I mean, yeah, you will find ayat in the Quran that criticize and chastise Jews, but that's specifically irreligious Jews, Jews who disobey their own laws. And you'll find those same types of Jews being criticized and chastised in the Torah even more harshly. It isn't criticism of them as Jews, but criticism of religious disobedience, of rebelliousness against God. And that's what the Zionists are today. They're irreligious, disobedient, rebellious deviants.

They're rebellious against god, and that's why they're so ruthless and so barbaric. That's why they bomb hospitals and murder babies and try to starve people and make them die of thirst, blow entire families to pieces. They're cousins, the people of justice and righteousness. That's why there's such a such an abnormal level of brutality. Why the Zionists are so savage and unnatural because they're unholy.

Their ideology is unholy. It's uniquely blasphemous violence. You know that old Zionist slogan, a land without a people for a people without a land? Now, of course, we all know that Palestine has been continuously inhabited for thousands of years. It's never been a land without a people.

But the thing that people overlook is that among the people who were in that land of Palestine before the Zionists came were Jews. Any Jews in Europe had over a thousand years to go to Palestine if they wanted to go. It's not about going back to their homeland because under the Muslims, they always could have gone to Palestine. We never stopped them. The Zionists weren't even thinking about Palestine initially.

They were gonna go to Uganda. There's nothing religious about Zionism. Not actually. Because those religious Jews in Europe stayed there. They knew that they didn't have a claim on Palestine.

That's why they never went there in all those centuries. I mean, Jews who were already there, the Jews who were living in Palestine already had been there all along under the Muslims. But the the Jews who had been banished to different parts of the world by the Christians, they stayed away for religious reasons. There's no religious basis for the Jews to control Palestine. That goes against the Jewish religion, and they know it.

I mean, why isn't Ben Shapiro in Jerusalem right now? Why doesn't he live in Israel? He's living in California. Or he's just like those extremist Muslim keyboard jihadi types, you know, who go on and on about sharia and and Islamic state and all of that. But you couldn't pry them out of their suburban homes in Houston or Los Angeles because they know they're just talking rubbish.

Ben Shapiro claims to be an Orthodox Jew. Well, the only evidence that there is that he is an Orthodox Jew is exactly the fact that he doesn't live in Israel because Orthodox Jews know what's wrong. But he still goes hysterical in this demented defense of Zionism. That's not a Jewish Orthodox position, but he works for the Daily Wire. He's a co owner of the Daily Wire.

But the Daily Wire was started by Ferris Wilkes, who's a man who belongs to a radical right wing quasi Christian sect. And their church the church with that name belongs to be the weird pastiche of Christians and so called Jews for Jesus. Now Ben Shapiro is an impostor Orthodox Jew. He's an oxymoron promoting deeply anti Judaic Zionism while not living in Israel because he works for a cult. It's called the Assemblies of Yahweh.

Look it up. It's a strange admixture of Judaism and Christianity. And they have this idea that the that the world is under something called a beast system, and they're obsessed with the idea of a one world government and so on. And just like that Amoram Hussein types, you know, who go on and on about the Dajjal system and all that. They're fanatic cultists posing as traditional conservatives.

And Dennis Breaker is the same. These people don't care about Jews. They don't care about Judaism. They're insane. They wanna bring about what they call the great tribulation.

And this intersects then with the fanatic evangelical Christians who daydream about Armageddon. I'm telling you, the lunatics have taken over the asylum. And these are the same people who are always talking about logic and reason and facts don't care about your feelings, but they are literally crazy people. They may as well believe in the mothership. But what they all have in common is antisemitism, anti Judaism, anti orthodox religion.

And they're among Netanyahu's biggest cheerleaders. You know, you people are always talking about the the so called dangers of Muslim extremism. But you have been empowering, arming, funding, promoting, supporting, and whitewashing the most violent, the most dangerous, the most savage, the most radical form of extremism there is, and you've been doing it for decades. A genocidal, apocalyptic, inhuman extremism, and that's Zionism. Zionism has killed more people in just the last three weeks than have died in the Russian Ukraine war in in almost two years.

It's a plague on humanity, and it's a plague on the Jews. But what the Orthodox Jews believe about Bani Ismail, about the Muslims is right. What they say about the Muslims is right. What they believe about the Muslims is right. We are the people who will establish justice and righteousness and integrity on the earth.

It's the Muslim world that's been mediating during this conflict. It's the Muslims who've been engaging in nonstop diplomacy. It's the Muslims who are trying to achieve a cease fire. It's the Muslims who are trying to prevent this conflict from escalating and spreading throughout the region. It's the Muslims who are upholding their agreements, who are keeping their word, and who are trying to assert some sanity in this madness.

And it's the Muslims who are maneuvering The United States and the West out of the scenario. It's the Muslims, the Muslim public all around the world who are undertaking all types of nonviolent protest and opposition to try to end the Zionist carnage in Gaza. It's the Muslims who are displaying civilized self restraint and discipline even while our hearts are burning with anger and anguish for our brothers and sisters in Gaza. And it's the Muslims just like in Malaysia where they're where they're boycotting Starbucks so strong that company might have to shut down in that country. It's the Muslims who are pioneering a new approach and a new philosophy of political activism that can potentially empower the masses all around the world to confront the tyrannical power of the private sector.

The Muslims are leading the liberation struggle against every form of imperialism and colonialism there is, not just in Palestine, but in Niger, in Burkina Faso against the French, in Tunisia against the IMF, in Indonesia and Malaysia against the US dollar, and, yes, in The Gulf States against American and Western hegemony in the Middle East. And good, decent, moral people everywhere are being brought to their senses about Zionism and about Western imperialism and brutality. The barbarity and the fanaticism of the Zionist is getting exposed all across social media. And the faith and the moral power of the Palestinians is juxtaposed right alongside that. The warmongering of the West and the restraint and the diplomacy of the Muslim world are being witnessed by everyone in stark contrast.

I wouldn't be surprised if for every martyr that they kill in Gaza, someone somewhere takes the Shahada because the truth stands out clear from falsehood, and it doesn't stand out any clearer anywhere than it does right now in Palestine.

Okay. Okay. So So You know, this video is amazing, and it really touched upon most of the stuff that, in Allah, we will be discussing today. And even though may it might not have gone into detail or depth about some of the stuff like just, you know, was mentioned in one sentence, it's really you know, we need to uncover all of these layers inshallah together. So I'll just give some, you know, introduction to, you know, try to somehow introduce this topic and how we will try to approach it.

So first of all, we need to critically analyze the roots of this antisemitism and this Jewish hatred. Right? We need to understand how did we get where we are, basically. And the most important bit is the western origin of this hatred. Yeah?

And how it culminated into Zionism, Insha'Allah. Okay? So we will try to look at this aspect in one part of the talk. The second part of the talk will, you know, try we'll try to somehow uncover the myth, right, that are being like that are plaguing discourse. Right?

And there are these all false accusations about how Jews control the world, how they own all the banks, all the big tech, all the media, you know, the Jewish lobby, right, how it's influencing The US foreign policy. And, again, we will try to uncover what are the statistics. Is it, you know, reflecting reality? Is this true? Is it not true?

And lastly, after having understood all of this, we will inshallah try to showcase how basically Israel and Zionism is really a culmination of all of this that has been, you know, discussed. And it's really just sort of a microcosm of the whole Western civilization. It's like like a concentration of all of the, quote, unquote, the values of the approach to the world, of the beliefs of, you know, how you approach other people, how you approach other races, other ethnicities. It's all condensed down in this colonial project called Israel. Okay.

So inshallah, I hope that this structure somehow makes sense to our listeners, and it's interesting for you. The you know, what I need to highlight at first, and I believe all my speakers agree, is just that we are about justice. Right? We are not trying to absolve anyone of any crimes. We are not trying.

That's one part of it, of course. And the other side, we need to, you know, always be objective in the blame shifting. Right? Because we're not gonna blame them for things that they didn't do, and we're not gonna absolve them of things that they did do. Yeah.

Brother Shahid, please. I see your hand. It's stretched out.

Yeah. I hope you can hear me. I hope I'm audible. Yeah. That that what you just said, I think, is very important, and I would like to just emphasize it and reiterate it.

Because people can be very quick to jump on a topic like this and pretend that we're defending the Jews or we're defending the Israelis or something like this. Rather than it simply being the case that we acknowledge and recognize fully the crimes and the atrocities and the monstrous things that they are doing. But what we don't accept is for you to shift all of the blame of your own crimes and your own monstrous activities, and your monstrous behavior, and the monstrous strategy of Western colonization, brutal Western colonization, which is, what Israel actually is. But but the Westerners want to shift all blame and responsibility to the Jews. So, all we're saying, is that, well, yes indeed, the Israelis and the Zionists are guilty of tremendous crimes, even those crimes have to be attributed to their sponsors and to their backers, and to the ones who are actually the architects of this entire thing, which is the westerners.

So what we are rejecting is the blame shifting, which does not mean then shifting accountability away from the Zionists, away from the Israelis for what they have done. I think it's it's very important to to reiterate that and to emphasize that so they can't be in misinterpreted either ignorantly or willfully.

Thank you very much, brother. Really needs to be reiterated many times. And I I know even although we have mentioned it now, you know, twice or three times, it will still come up in the comments. So InshaAllah, we will deal with it when the time comes. But please try to objectively first to, you know, some emotions might start kicking in.

Alright? But we, as you know, Muslims and as objective people, always try to keep it cool headed, try to understand what is being said, and then maybe form an opinion, InshaAllah. That's the best approach I can recommend, InshaAllah. So, mister Mullah, history of antisemitism. Right?

That's probably the part where we should start because, you know, we need to give it some historical context. So, I would like to ask, you know, some of my speakers, anyone who wishes to, you know, relate to this point. I would wanna ask, like, how has this historical or, like, what type of historical persecution, first of all, right, of Ben Israel? We could go from, you know, the time of Egypt. But mainly, of course, we I would like to have our focus, you know, for to be focused on the European experience.

But even going back, right, there is this adherence to Tawhid and monotheism. And when you have monotheists in a Catholic society or, like, in a disbelieving society, it has some effects. Right? There is some relationships that get developed. So I would like to ask my speakers in what ways did, you know like, these efforts to try to somehow assimilate or they even deviated in some respects from Tawhid.

Right? How did this serve as a survival mechanism to mitigate the persecution that they were undergoing? Again, how can we somehow understand this in the broader context of this history, right, of the Jewish history? Because it really is a psychologically colonized minority under oppressive you know, under different oppressive systems during the decades, during the centuries. So, yeah, please feel free.

Brother,

Can you hear me? Okay. Perfect. So, you know, you you you mentioned the the earliest origins of anti Jewish hatred kind of started in in Egypt. Right?

But I think we we I think, in my opinion, it is useful to differentiate between what what happened in Egypt and what happened in Europe. I don't like, we were told in the Quran, obviously, that they they were persecuted for for being monotheists for being different from, you know, the parties of the society. And there's also a very interesting theory by I think he's a he's a Iraqi British scholar, Louis Fattouki, I believe his name is, where he says that one of the motivations for the the persecution was that the pharaoh of the time was afraid that, you know, Ben Israel or, you know, the sons of of Israel would would rise up and take over the land. Because, obviously, you know, they've been there for quite a while ever since the time of Yusuf and I mean, Joseph. So that's one historical fact, obviously, that they were persecuted in Egypt and they had to flee to Palestine.

Right? But I would not call that antisemitism specifically. Like, you know, that's its own form of hatred and bigotry and and violence. But what we like to call what what we do call, rightfully so, antisemitism definitely originated with within the context of the of the Roman Empire. Right?

So, you know, it has deep Christian, anti Jewish connotation story because, obviously, you know, the the Christians of of Europe and in of of the Middle East to to an extent on have held this belief that the Jews are responsible for murdering their god, their, you know, son of god. And for that reason for rejecting him as well. And and for that reason, they are not allowed to, you know, to peacefully coexist with them. So in in I mean, in in Europe, throughout history, there have been victims of pogroms of ethnic cleansing campaigns, you know, deep rooted deeply rooted hatred as well. And, I mean, you could talk about, you know, what happened in in Spain, I believe, and the queen, Izabela, if I'm once taken, what happened in England, what happened in France, you know, Germany, and obviously, the the Holy Roman Empire at that time.

There was no religious tolerance for them. And they were seen as, you know, these semi foreigners in Europe who did not belong to the, you know, to the purebloods of Europe. You know? And marrying a Jew was seen as a very heinous act. You would, you know, you would, how shall I put it, poison of your bloodline if you married a Jew.

And they were comparing them to animals, you know, to being pure and and whatnot. So, you know, that's a very deeply rooted feeling that the health of the centuries, which obviously culminated in the Second World War with the Holocaust. So I would say that, you know, and I don't want to dwell on this for too long, but I would say that antisemitism is a European concept even though, you know, Ben Israel had had experienced, you know, extreme hardships, obviously, under various other empires. So but I I I would try and pin it this specific type of bigotry and hatred on on the Europeans.

Yeah. Thank you very much, brother. You highlighted great points. And exactly like the current form that we know of is resulting from, you know, the experience of Europe and the western view of monotheism or just in you know, to be specific. But even in the Quran, you know, the pharaoh tells to the people, right, I am afraid that they will you know, that Musa will change your religion.

Right? So there is this sense of, you know, the, like, the threat of monotheism. Right? It's not just purely you know, there is some relationship I feel personally, of course, but monotheism, it was a threat to them, and it was a threat even in Europe. Right?

And, of course, it got onto different levels with respect to Jesus, peace be upon him, as you mentioned. But, yeah, like, monotheism is always a threat to the existing, you know, capital power structures. So yeah. Please, brother Amar.

So there were many cases or many reasons why the Jews were persecuted. Some were for their monotheism. Others were just like he brilliantly described, which was totally out of my mind, regarding the fear of Haraun that they would riot and take the land. So it's not because they were monotheists specifically, perhaps, but because he was fearing that they he was fearing the political impact that they had had in the Egyptian society and that they could eventually take away his throne. And even the Babylonians, they may have persecuted the Jews for being monotheistic or just for for in their in their campaign to to subjugate the whole in the entire Middle East because the the Babylonians had this tactic of displacing peoples across their empire.

So it wasn't just restricted for the Jews, but it was a tactic that they had used in their empire. So there been many persecutions and the reasons for the persecutions were quite diverse in later in the Middle Ages in Europe, because the Jews were they acted as money lenders because the church had prohibited, you know, the interest or usually ubiba, which is also prohibited in Islam. And so people could not deal in interest, but the Jews did deal in interest. And they had successful banking businesses in the back in the day, and that made them hated by society and revealed the the fact that they could be used as scapegoats for their for their for their political agendas. So what I'm trying to say is, as brother Nell already said, that deep anti Jewishness just for the sake of being Jewish, you know, hating people for the sake of them being just Jewish is a deeply European construct of the late nineteenth and twentieth centuries.

And I think it was unprecedented that that people should hate another people this much just for being one way or the other. Nothing was ever like that. So I think this is the unique part about anti Semitism in Europe is that it was I mean, European Jews were not threatening to to destabilize the system in Europe, so there was no fear of political overtake. Banking was already something that Europe was already practicing in this period, so they weren't the money launder money launders they used to be. And so there was no reason for Europe to hate them that much except for that they were just hated for no reason at all other than being just Jewish.

Thank you, brother. Yeah. So we can see the exactly as you mentioned, especially focusing probably on the European experience. Right? Because, you know, the crusades, the black death, right, and economic downturns, everything, you know, was the even, like, different pandemics, right, when there were, you know, fem feminists, everything was the problem.

You know, they were blamed for it. Right? They were the ones who did it. So there is, like, this West Western pathology associated with it. Right?

Because and I would, you know, refrain from using anti Semites. Right? But it's because, really, it's anti Jewish. K? So probably from, you know, from now on forward, inshallah, let's just call it for what it is.

Right? Because, know, they tied it to some, like, identity, how to say, like, ethnic identity. Right? When in reality, it has nothing to do with, you know, being Semitic or not. Right?

It's really just hatred against the Jews themselves. So, you know, okay. I see hands, but I will just, inshallah, try to say, like, we need to somehow, after understanding this history, right, because it's an undeniable history. Right? And imagine you are a minority group, and you lived through this for millenniums, right, for decades.

You know, your family you hear it from your grandparents, from their grandparents, from their great grandparents. Right? You're always, you know, persecuted, always pushed to the edge of the society, always in this state of it has a psychological effect. Right? So, you know, what do you think?

What are these psychological consequences of being in this position? So, of course, brother m g or brother I think brother m g hasn't spoken yet. We can inshallah hear him.

Assalamu alaikum everyone. Can you work can everyone hear me?

Okay.

So I think we have to go to the roots of the obsession of most modern western civilization with genetics because they always stress on the concept of genetics. What's your ancestry? Where do you really come from? Where where where? So, this is how they have justified Zionism.

They always stress on Ashkenazi Jews who are European Jews who have adopted Judaism as faith and the semitic roots of of the Jewish faith. And so they always stress on them not being European. They always stress on them being semi that they are genetically Semitic, which of course is not true. And so this is the point or the core that we should focus on. We have to look at Israel and Zionism or let's say, the Zionist state Of Israel as a crusader state with a Jewish facade.

It's a settler state. It's no different than French Algeria. It's no different than Rhodesia, apartheid South Africa, even The United States itself and Australia and New Zealand. So we have to look at it from this angle because, for example, one of the things that I I have seen was basically when you when you talk with a Zionist or when you talk with someone who is, let's say, an Israeli, they always stress on depending on from which background they're coming from. So if they are if they are liberal or conservative, they they both of them always stress on the concept of ancestry.

And then you, of course, when you when you when you when you how you say when you test them and you say for example, what if I took an DNA test and I found out that I have Hebrew origin. Will I be accepted into the Jewish state? And then they'll say, no. So basically, it's the the whole idea is to create a a settler colonial state to prove to suppress the region and to suppress and to also create a wedge between Jewish and Muslim communities.

Okay. Thank you, brother. I can see, like, your train of thought. Right? You you meant it in the sense that there is this psychological impact where you try to identify yourself based on your bloodline, right, rather than some type of belief.

Because, again, it's you know, like, I understand it. But, yeah, basically, this is the western again, you know, they put on them some sticker, right, and make them think about their own religion in some way. And, of course, this is, you know, a huge aspect of this psychological colonization to be, you know, somehow to articulate it in some fashion. Right? But what other aspects can you think because, of course, we will get into Zionism.

It is one of these, you know, outcomes of this century or decades long psychological colonization. So what is the state, you know, the mentality of these people? Yeah. Sorry.

No. It's okay. I I I just wanted to I think that you had raised the question about the psychological impact on Jews as a result of their centuries of persecution, particularly in Europe, particularly in the West, since of course Westerners were much more vicious and much more prolific in their persecution of Jews than any other people. And then Brother MG was talking about the West's obsession with genetics and ethnicities. They were fascinated by this and obsessed with this in the nineteenth century and so forth.

And I think that these two topics actually sort of can be tied together in that and I think you alluded to it actually earlier in fact, with regards to how Jews at various times in their history, religious Jews, because at that time in the early history of the Jews, order to be a Jew you had to be practicing Judaism. That was it was a religion. Now it was a community to a certain extent. They regarded themselves as a people, but it was a people defined by their religion, by their practicing of the religion. If a Jew became a apostate, then he ceased being a Jew regardless of what his bloodline may or may not have been.

Being a Jew just meant that you were religious. Now that's not what it meant in Europe, however. So you were talking about how sometimes the Jews, as a result of the persecution that they suffered, would compromise in their religion, and they would sort of taint their practice or whatever, and they would make concessions to try to win the favor of their oppressors. To try to assimilate with their oppressors as a way to sort of save themselves or protect themselves against the relentless persecution and oppression that they did in fact suffer historically. Well, they also tried to do to to do that in Europe to one extent or another, and you have many many who apostated from Judaism, became secular, became atheists.

And in fact, the the original we won't I won't get too much into it now, but of course, the original founders of Zionism were atheists, and many of them, as I've said in the video, are atheists today. So they are not Jew by religion anymore. They're not Jewish by religion anymore. But the thing with the Europeans, because they were so obsessed, and continue to be so obsessed with what they call race, what they call ethnicity, and so forth, and genetics, as brother said, they wouldn't let Jews not be Jews even if they had left the religion. They still, insisted to call Jews Jews even if they were atheists and didn't even believe in God.

But somehow, they were still Jews, because someone in their family line had been a practicing Jew. So they turned it into an ethnicity, even though even ethnically, even genetically, it didn't apply to the Jews that they were persecuting. Because as you said, we're talking about Europeans who had converted to Judaism. They weren't semites, and they're not semites. But they needed it to be a sort of a racial demographic.

They needed to invent a racial demographic based on the historical identity, cultural genetic identity of the Bani Israel. And in that way, they could ensure that Jews couldn't escape from persecution by changing their religion or becoming a prostate. They needed to have a scapegoat. They needed to have someone to persecute, and the West always needs that. You know, they always talk about like in America, America being this melting pot, and they're always telling people in Europe, immigrants in Europe, Muslims in Europe, religious people in Europe, all different types of people that they need to assimilate.

But the reality is they don't want you to assimilate, and in fact, they won't let you assimilate because they need to have an other who they can always pin their problems on, who they they can always pin blame upon. Now in Europe at that time, the Jews were the most viable target. So they wouldn't even let them not be Jews. They had to be Jews as defined by the society regardless of what their religion was. Why even if they had converted to Christianity, they'd still be Jews.

As I say, even if they were atheists and didn't believe in God, and were a godless people, it didn't matter to the European Christians. It didn't matter even to the European atheists. The all of this came out, by the way, after the enlightenment, so called enlightenment, which is really when Europe entered one of its darkest periods intellectually and morally. When they insisted on on racializing the Jews, and then the Jews themselves, because again, based upon their their own history of prosecution and their, attempts to change and, acquiesce and appease, and assimilate to their oppressors, the Jews took upon themselves the definition of a Jew that was given to them by anti Jewish, hating Europeans, which is to say that they're still a Jew regardless of what their religious belief is or if they don't have a religious belief at all. So then even for the Jews themselves, being Jewish became an ethnic identity even though under the under the the the misnomer of being a Semite.

Even though the Jews who took that title upon themselves and referred to themselves as a Semite, so that they could, try to, cope with anti Semitism, they became, this racialized identity. They they they they ceased to regard themselves or to define themselves according to religion, on the basis of not being defined according to their religion by antisemites, by u by by European Christian bigots, who insisted that they're Jews regardless of what their belief was.

Inshallah, this is such an interesting, point exactly. Like, they make you think of yourself as they see you, right, or as they think of you. So we can see so many parallels even with us Muslims living in the West. Right? That you basically, due to this approach of theirs towards you, you start viewing yourself as how they view you.

Right? So it's a very dangerous position that one can get into, and I think that this Jewish experience yeah. Sorry, brother. Wanna add something?

No. No. No. You're absolutely right. And and with regards to Muslims in the West.

And if if Muslims in the West keep going the way that some of them are going, some some members of the Muslim community in the West, if they keep going the way that they're going, and and and bending over backwards to the extent that some of them are in terms of trying to so called assimilate with the West, like, it won't be more than a few generations before you start to have have people saying that they are, atheist Muslims. The same way that you have atheist Jews. That a hundred years ago, two hundred years ago, not a hundred, two hundred years ago, to refer to an atheist Jew would have been an oxymoron. There's no way that you could call yourself both an atheist and a Jew at the same time. That would have been something, completely rejected by the Jewish community, two hundred years ago, three hundred years ago, what have you.

But now it's taken it's regarded as perfectly normal. And you see, even they're trying to do it with with, Muslims in Europe. I don't know if they're doing it in the West Zone in America so much, but in Europe, I know that they actually refer to, anti Muslim hatred as racial. They refer to Muslims as a race, which is the same thing that they did with the Jews. When, of course, Muslim is not a race.

You could be any race, so called race, if you already are insisting on believing the European obsession with genetics and so called ethnicities and so forth to even talk about races. If you already are accepting that, then then you have to recognize that they're trying to do the same thing even with Muslims that they did with the Jews, which is to say that Muslims are a race. The same way that they said that Jews are a race, so it doesn't matter what their religion is. So eventually, you would you you could end up having someone actually seriously saying saying with a serious face that they're an atheist Muslim, or you might even reach the point of they're being a Christian Muslim because Muslim is a racial identity. They've they've turned it into a racial identity because you've accepted their definitions of things.

They're completely confused and malicious definitions of things, which they're only defining in that way so that they can permanently ensure that they have some other, some community, some faction in their society on whom they can pin the blame for their own misdeeds and for their own problems.

Yeah. 100%. Exactly. And we stop at all. Let's hope we don't reach there because we already can have a lesson from what has happened to other groups.

Right? So let's just hope that, yeah, and not reach the point. As you are saying, it already is in some circles that way, right, where they think of, you know, yeah, in terms of, like, some lineage and some heritage about Islam rather than pure monotheism. Right? And it's not even linked to the to the creed of Islam.

You know? It's just some type of identity that you hold on to without, you know, adhering to any of the things. So please, brother Ali, what do you

wanna mention? Can you hear

me? Yeah.

I mean, in the end, it's it's the feeling of inferiority that can change how you approach your own identity. I had written down a little example from from our own story from pre Islamic Arabs showing just one how one instant of inferiority can change the trajectory of a people. When when Ahmad ibn Al Hayy from Bani Huzzah went and visited the Amalekite civilization in in Biladisham, and he saw just how advanced they are and and asked them, how did you reach this? And they basically pointed to their idols and said, you know, we pray to them and we are just blessed and given everything we wanted. And he asked them to gift him one of those idols and he took it back.

And it

was according to Ibn Kathir's narration, it was the first time that idolatry was introduced into Mecca. And and and from that point forward, whether it be the sacrifice of animals to an idol, it changed the trajectory. It introduced more shirk into Quraysh all the way till our prophet came. So imagine the implication when you have centuries steeped in the feeling of inferiority when when the Jews are persecuted for generations and made to feel inferior. So it it became natural for them to adopt the system of their oppressor.

Their oppressor's obsession was race. And therefore, they went ahead and adopted the same idea. They they came once they became divided due to their apostasy or their or their changes, obviously, there's a context to these changes. They they didn't want to change, but that is the result of although blameworthy, it is the result of what happened to them. However, as they adopted the the idea of of of race, they went ahead and mutated what being a Jew means.

I actually saw a speech that was really funny from Rabbi Sachs, where he was trying to define what antisemitism is. And he said that antisemitism is the hate that mutates. He said that it was basically, it started as a hatred for a theology, then became the hatred of a race. And now it's the hatred of a political ideology. When all in fact, all he did was show the transitions that the Jews themselves ended up going through when they adopted first race as a definition, and now eventually trying to make Zionism and Judaism become synonymous and turning Judaism into a political ideology.

And also, if you if you don't mind, I'd like to add another point here, which is, you know, just an an another way of looking at it. I I believe most European Jews have, you know, have read the the phrase when in Rome do as a Roman and, you know, thought, okay, what a grand idea. So they have adopted a lot of, you know, European bigoted views about the rest of the world and specifically about the Muslims. I I suppose this can serve as a precursor to the the foundation of Zionism because in order to fully assimilate in in Europe with Westerners, they have to say, okay. We hate who you now hate, and we love who you love, we behave as you behave.

And now we can have an alliance. So I'll leave you now to to to make a segue to the next segment.

Thank you very much for adding this, and thank you, brother Ali, for what you said because, really, again, you know, how we view everything is through the lens of Islam, of course. You know, for us Muslims, that is our furqan, right, our distinguisher, our, you know, what is true, what is false with them. Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala even in the Quran is, you you know, know, immediately the second Surah Surah Bukhara. It goes extensively into this psychological colonization of the. Right?

And then, subhanAllah, this is the place again, it's a lesson for us. Right? It's not to just blame shift everything on them. Of course, it's you know, we don't, like, somehow support what they did. Of course, we, you know, even condemn it with respect to what they should have done and how they should have done, but it gives us some lessons when you are centuries upon centuries under an oppressive colonizer, how, again, with respect to this inferiority complex that brother Ali mentioned.

Because, really, it's something that we as Muslims are suffering from. Right? We wanna be like the West. We wanna have, you know, PhDs from the West. We wanna be on western media.

We you know, like, we wanna be accepted by them. Right? And it's the same sort of psychological colonization that that the Israel were undergoing, right, when they were again worshiping the golden calf in the desert. Right? All of this stuff is just really lessons that show us the mental state.