Café Conversation: Medjool Dates, the Muslims, Jews, & the Arc of history

And it's so it's so it's so, so wrong. It's so I mean, what does what do the Israelis have to do with dates? A date a date tree takes a long time to grow. The the the the those date trees take a long time to grow. So you didn't you didn't plant those trees.

Even if the even if the dates are coming from Israel, so called Israel, those trees are planted by Palestinians. That's Palestinian land planted by Palestinians who you drove out, and now you're selling their dates to the world, you know, and and trying and trying to trick trying to trick people into thinking that they're from Palestinians. When you stole them from Palestinians and then selling to the world, and the only way that anyone will buy them from you is if you tell them it's from Palestinians, You know? Because we know why you have them in the first place, and you have to deny why you have them and why you're selling them to the world because you you stole them and you drove the people out of their land. Everyone knows that those dates aren't from you.

You didn't when's the last time an Israeli planted a date tree? I mean, come on. They don't even do agriculture anywhere in the world. Where do they do agriculture? They don't even dig the diamonds.

You know? They're in the diamond business. When's the last time they were in a diamond mine? The Palestinians in so called what's now Israel, they planted those trees. You drove them out.

You kept the trees. And then they when when they drove when you drove them out, they went to Gaza or they went to the West Bank, and they planted more trees, and you burned those down. You won't let them have trees, but no one wants to buy from you. So you you still have to tell people that those dates are from the Palestinians because the fact is they're from Palestinians. Everyone knows that you don't you don't bring anything out of the earth.

But, I mean, what do you think is gonna happen? This is the thing that gets me is what do you think is gonna happen? What do you think is gonna happen in the future to you because of what you're doing now? As Jews, you you have enough experience in the world and and and and enough should have enough knowledge of your own history to know how the pendulum swings in history and that justice is achieved over the course of time, over the course of even if it's centuries. If it's decades, if it's centuries, if it's millennia, justice is achieved.

There's not only justice in the Akhara, there's justice in the dunya, but it's across time. And you have experienced that, and you've witnessed that. So you you know perfectly well that what you're doing to the Palestinians is gonna be visited upon your children or your children's children or your great grandchildren and so on. So whatever you're doing against the Palestinians now, you're actually doing against your own progeny. You're doing against your own successors in your bloodline because that's how justice actually works in the world, and you know that.

So what do you think is gonna happen? When you're when you're doing, like, what what just like with the dates, what you've done. What do you think is gonna happen? And what are you gonna be able to say when it's done to you in the future? What's your what's what's your excuse gonna be?

What's your rationale gonna be? What's your justification? Why will anyone sympathize with you and your children and your great grandchildren and whoever, your progeny in the future? Who will sympathize with you when we know your history, When we know what your great grandparents did to the Palestinians or your whatever, your your prior generations? And we know this is what goes around comes around.

You know that. You know that better than anyone that what goes around comes around. But you don't want to have come around what you're sending out. You don't want it to come back to you, but you know it will. But it it means you don't care about your own children.

You don't care about your own future generations. You're what when you're doing when you're committing this kind of injustice against people in the world, that means you're a traitor to your own future generations. Yes. You're a traitor to your own children and children's children. And look how stupid you are.

Really how stupid you are. You're putting your your your your putting all of your trust in yours for your safety and security in the hands of people on the basis of knowing that they are only supporting you because they want to destroy you. How stupid is that? I mean, really, what happened with the mythological Jewish intelligence? That you're you're you're making this this deal with the devil.

You know? For you, it's the deal with the devil. Deal deal with what you regard as and not not unjustly. Regard as the evangelical Christians. You're not even allowed to pray in their church.

You're not even allowed to enter their church, but you're seeking safety and protection and support from them based on their desire to have you decimated, to bring back what you regard as a false messiah who will kill all of you. That's the basis for your relationship. You know? Of dysfunction. Like, how do you think that that's gonna go?

How how does that what are you thinking? I mean, really, what what we like, you you you you know perfectly well that the only people you've ever been safe with are Muslims. You know perfectly well. The only people that you were ever safe and secure and stable within, we gave you your golden era. How many thousand of years you people existed until we came along, you never had a golden era, and you didn't have one since.

You you haven't been able to achieve a golden era on your own because we know, as Allah said, you can't you can only flourish, you can only have any confidence when you have a guarantee of safety or security from someone who's more powerful than you. But when you had a a guarantee of safety and security from us because we're more powerful than you, we're also better, and we also follow our religion. And so so we allowed you to flourish and have a golden age. But when you seek safety and protection from people who who the the whole basis of their granting you safety and protection is for the sake of moving you into a trap to have you killed, that's that's the basis of your relationship with the with the Christians. You never had a golden era.

You sought you sought refuge in in Europe, and and and they put you in concentration camps and burned you alive. Fine. That's the outcome. When you seek the safety and protection from from the West. When you sought safety and protection from the Muslims, had your golden age.

But the point of it yeah. But, you know, the other the other thing of it is is it's like a it's like a family dispute where it's like Cain and Abel. It's like and Habib. One is accepted by Allah. Yes.

One of the two of us is accepted. We're like cousins. We're brothers, cousins, whatever. Bani Ismail, Bani Ishaft. And you keep messing up.

You're the you're you're really the dysfunctional one in the family. And we're the prodigy genius child. We're the we're the most beloved prodigy prodigy prodigy prodigy genius child in the family. And you keep messing up. You don't stop messing up.

Allah kept sending you prophets. But why though? Because you kept messing up. Because you kept going astray. It's like you're addicted to going astray.

He would send you a prophet, he would send you a book, and you would change the book, you would change the words, you would say, oh, let's let's do this instead. Let's listen to what the rabbi says instead of what the prophet said. Let's change the words or whatever. Let's mess up and and and you go astray. Every time, again and again and again and again and again.

Endlessly. And then one time, one prophet was sent to us. One book was sent to us. And and and Allah said, okay. This is the last.

This is the last book. This is the last prophet. What makes that possible? Us. The fact that we would that that when Allah said that this is the last message, this is the last prophet, what he's telling us is that we, as Muslims, we will never go astray.

That's a guarantee. That's a promise. When Allah said that he's gonna protect the book, he's gonna preserve the Quran, that's a guarantee about us, ourselves, that our that our will be the only that ever received revelation that stuck to it. In all of the in all of human history, we are the only of mankind that ever stuck to the to the revelation. We never dropped it and we never will, and that's a guarantee from Allah because if it wasn't if he didn't say that this is the last one, then it would mean we could go astray.

We might go astray and it would require sending another. So he's not saying it's not like a it's not like an ultimatum where Allah is saying, I'm, like, I'm finished with you people. I'm not sending any more prophets. I'm done. You take it or leave it.

This is the last one. That's not how it is. He's saying this is the last one because it's the last one you that you that you need. Because these people who who I gave the book to, they're never gonna mess up with it. They're never gonna change it.

They're never gonna go astray from it. They'll preserve it forever. These are the right people. So there's no need for another prophet. There's no need for another book.

Not just because Islam is complete. Because who said that it wasn't complete before? Who said that that what was given to what was given to the who said that those weren't complete, that Allah sent incomplete messages? Probably not. The only reason that it was required to send another one is because they messed up with that one.

But Allah is telling us that this is the last one means we're not gonna mess up. Because it's not like if we messed up and then Allah doesn't love humanity anymore, doesn't want them to be guided. If he knew that we were gonna mess up, then it means that there's gonna be another prophet, there's gonna be another book. But he said specifically, no. This is the last one, last message, last prophet, last book, last revelation, last ummah.

Because the because this ummah will not mess up. We won't go astray. And like I said, we're the only one in the history of the world, in the history of all mankind. And that's it. That's that's that that we should we should be proud of that because that when when Allah said that it's the last message and it's the last prophet, that tells us something about us.

That means it's safe with you. The revelation is safe with you. The deen is safe with you. You know? And so the Jews resent that because you know what you do.

You know how you've been. And we know too. And, okay, that's how you are. What to do? We're better than you.

The the the the Muslim Ummah is better than you. You should join it. That's the good thing about it. You can still be it. You can you can come anytime.

Anybody can can join. It's not a racial thing. It's not exclusive. It's you can enter very easily as we see all these celebrities joining. Everybody is the trend.

So you should join the trend. You know? It's like that guy it's like that I told you about that one time that guy who was in Israel who got stopped, the guy who got stopped in Israel. He was he was being questioned, they were like, we know you wanna drive us into the sea. You wanna drive us out of here.

You want us all dead. What is this? He's like, no. We don't want anything. We just want you to say.

That's all we want. And we're fine. And that's the truth. That's all that's all that's all all that's that's want. We don't need anything else from you.

Just become more snafu.